004 Dialog between Hammad and Francis

Hammad

Hello. How may I help you today?

Frances

Hi, I live in Birmingham so there’s a fair few Muslims near where I live, I don’t want to ask them because I don’t want them to feel like I’m placing them in an uncomfortable position but my question is how can God exist? I’ve never seen anything that could prove God exists

Hammad

Very good question. Thanks alot for asking and welcome to the chat.

Frances

Thanks Hammad

Hammad

Now first when we say God we mean the Creator of this Universe we agree?

Frances

Yes that’s right

Hammad

Now, are our eyes capable of seeing the Creator in this world, what do you think?

Frances

I don’t know, I wouldn’t know what to look for

Hammad

Well the sun is super bright and its a creation right? If you stare for it too long it will blind you correct?

Frances

Supposedly so, I know it hurts my eyes if I look into it too long but I always look away haha

Hammad

And now imagine the Creator of this Universe, Greater then everything in this Universe. So clearly we are limited, but anyways lets think deeper though.

In this life, we accept things not solely based on the senses correct?

Frances

Yes

Hammad

So now one possibility for this Universe to exist is a Creator, what other possibilities could there be for this Universe to exist?

Frances

I’d have to say the Big Bang like we got taught at school

Hammad

Good, Big Bang means this Universe has a starting point, but it doesnt explain why it was caused at a particular moment in time, what else you think?

Frances

That’s all I know

Hammad

How about the Universe created itself? Came from nothing? Being always there?

Frances

I thought it was just space and then there was a reaction that caused the Big Bang

Hammad

Reaction cannot occur by chance you agree right? As per Big Bang space and time was also created.

Frances

I suppose

Hammad

So from nothing – nothing comes

For something to create itself, it cannot exist in the first place

We agree right?

Lets go deeper

You came from your mom and your mom came from her mom

If the cycle goes backwards where is the start?

Imagine dominos lined up in a straight line, if no force knocks the first domino how can the rest follow?

The Quran makes a strong argument for our existence

Frances

Well it’s mean to be Adam and Eve when talking religiously isn’t it

Hammad

Did they create themselves or came from nothing? We know both isnt possible

Exactly, without religion would force would be there for their existance of the first life?

Life brings up another point, if you place all the living organs in a dead person it would not make the dead “alive” again.

So where did “life” come from?

We also know this Universe is fine tuned for life to exist

A bit closer or further from the sun we would die,…oxygen level a bit higher or lower we would die..

We also know this Universe is complex. No invention can ever compare to the human eye. The DNA, would take thousands of pages to transcribe

The coming of the Messengers is yet another proof, coming at different times with the same repeated message

Actually this belief in the Creator is also ingrained inside us, imagine at the brink of death who do we naturally turn to?

Frances

God

Hammad

Exactly

Does this show you that God exists?

Frances

It does

Can’t believe I’ve followed the shite school taught me

Hammad

What did they teach you?

Frances

About how the universe was created like with the Big Bang happening spontaneously

They also taught us religious education which was primarily focused on Christianity

Which I’ve never had an interest in

Hammad

Very interesting.

So now you accept the Creator created us with a purpose right?

Frances

Yeah I accept our creator

Hammad

What purpose you feel He created us for?

Frances

I don’t know

To have a family?

I’ve never known my purpose to be truthful

Hammad

Well think about it this way

Frances

Kind of felt lost at times

Hammad

We agree the Creator is All-Wise and Perfect right?

Frances

Yes

Hammad

And we also agree that compared to animals that we have a “free will”?

Frances

We do yeah

Hammad

Good, so clearly this purpose must come from Him right? So think about it in a bigger picture, how is having a family or being good will be tied back to the Creator?

Frances

I don’t know, does he tell us in the Quran?

Hammad

Yep, Quran tells us that we are created to worship Him alone and worship for a Muslim is the following:

Its a comprehensive term that includes any deed that pleases God. All good deeds are types of worship, smiling, being sincere at work, saying a nice word, and even treating one’s spouse gently, all this is greatly rewarded by God. And in the opposite any deed that doesn’t please God is a sin; talking bad about people is a sin, cheating, lying, hurting innocent people, harming the environment. Even for your good intentions you are rewarded!!!! 🙂

Frances

If I’m nice to everyone and stuff I’m worshipping God?

Hammad

Ofcourse if your intention is tied to God’s pleasure.

Frances

Well from now on I’ll always be nice to people in order to pleasure our God

Hammad

Exactly, and the Creator also has prescribed certain rituals also and the Messengers have come to show us how to do so.

Islam is essentially the same message all the Prophets and Messengers called to. Prophets such as Noah, Abraham, Lot, Moses, Jacob, Jesus, etc. with the last and final prophet being Muhammad (peace be upon them all). All prophets came with the same message, which is that God is One, He is the Creator of all that exists and we should worship Him, seek forgiveness directly from Him and only He has power over all things. The Messengers duties was simply to show the people “how” to worship the Creator and they were sent to specific people.

Make sense?

Frances

Yeah you make sense

Hammad

Should i share the beliefs of a Muslim?

Frances

Yeah you can do if you want

Hammad

1- Muslims believe in one, unique, incomparable God, Who has neither son nor partner, and that none has the right to be worshipped, invoked, supplicated to, or shown any act of worship but Him alone. God alone is the Almighty, the Creator, the Sovereign, and the Sustainer of everything in the whole universe. He manages all affairs. He stands in need of none of His creatures, and all His creatures depend on Him for all that they need.

Muslims refer to the Creator as “Allah”. Allah means Only Diety worthy of worship.

2- Believing in Angels, which were created by Allah from light, they worship God alone and they don’t disobey him at all. Like Jibril (Gabriel), Mika’eel (Michael). The purpose of their existence is to worship Allah and obey Him.

3- We believe That God chose certain people among us all to be prophets and messengers sent by him to us to guide us and show us the right path of God and the reason behind our existence on earth, we believe in all prophets and messengers, love and respect them like Jesus, Moses, Adam, Noah, Jacob and Muhammad (Peace be upon them all), this is an essential part of Muslim’s faith.

General Qualities of the Messengers:

1- Called to the worship of God alone

2- Sent to specific people

3- Came to revive the message

4- Came with signs and miracles to prove to the people they were truly sent by God.

In regards to Jesus — We believe that he was one of the mightiest Messengers of Allah the almighty GOD. We believe that he was born miraculously, without any male intervention. We believe he was the Messiah translated Christ (peace be upon him). We believe that he gave life to the dead with God’s permission. We believe that he healed those born blind, and the lepers with God’s permission. We do believe that he was not God, nor the son of God nor was he crucified. I hope thats clear?

Frances

If we were created by Allah to worship and obey him, what’s the difference between us and Angels?

Hammad

Angels dont have a free will

they always do good

They do whatever Allah commands them to do

They carry out Allah’s orders

And they are also there to serve us

Frances

Okay that makes sense now

Thanks

Hammad

Welcome

4- God sent divine books and miracles with prophets and messengers to show their honesty and real prophecy. The divine book of Islam is the Noble Quran, the last divine book which was revealed to Muhammad (peace be upon him). It has all perfect laws, legislation and rules we need to follow the orders of God as we should and obey him correctly. The Quran has been preserved in its original language since its revelation and is memorized completely by thousands of people of all nationalities. It has no mistakes nor errors, simply, a perfect book. We believe in all divine books that we know and we don’t know. Like the bible (Gospels of Jesus Christ in their original form) Torah- psalms and The Quran. They were sent to guide people to the right path of God, and the Quran was the last one which came with legislations and perfect laws.

Thereafter, comes believing in the Day of Judgment and that we all will be resurrected by God to be judged for our deeds. And Believing in destiny, pre-destination – that it is from God. Good or bad we accept and submit to the will of God. Are all the beliefs clear?

Frances

They are yes

Hammad

When it comes to acts of worship,

1) Muslims worship God alone without any partners.

2) Pray 5 times a day. This prayer makes us come closer to God on daily basis.

3) We fast one month per year (Ramadan).

4) Pay Charity to the poor (Zakah).

5) and make pilgrimage to Mecca (Hajj) once in a life time if we have the finical and physical ability.

Makes sense? 🙂

Frances

Yeah

Hammad

Please read then type this: “I believe that there is no God worthy of worship except Allah alone, and I believe that Muhammad is his final prophet and messenger”

Frances

I believe that there is no God worthy of worship except Allah alone, and I believe that Muhammad is his final prophet and messenger

Hammad

Also, please read then type it in Arabic: “Ash-Hadu an La iLaha illal-Lah, Wa Ash-Hadu Anna Muhammadan Rasulullah.”

Frances

Ash-Hadu an La iLaha illal-Lah, Wa Ash-Hadu Anna Muhammadan Rasulullah

Hammad

Congratulations… you are now a Muslim! I ask Allah almighty to keep you upon the path of all of His prophets, that He guides your steps and that He helps you in all of your life affairs.

Keep in mind, that once you have accepted Islam, all of your previous sins are forgiven and that you are now starting a new fresh life. Do your best to keep your new records with God clean and if you fall into something which God forbade, make sure you turn to Him and ask him for his guidance and forgiveness.

Frances

Why you want me to say that

Oh

Hammad

Now you are a Muslim, that was the testimony of Faith 🙂

How do you feel now?

Frances

Confused haha

I didn’t know that made me a Muslim

Hammad

Tell me more, you agree with everything about Islam or not?

Frances

I do yeah

Hammad

So do you wish to say it in Arabic now with full conviction?

Frances

That means I can’t drink and stuff though doesn’t it

Hammad

Right

For a short time of patience

You will have a life long reward

Frances

Does it matter I have a boyfriend?

I could do without drinking I supoose

Hammad

You should tell him that you have accepted it

Frances

Well I guess I said the testimony haven’t I

I’ll say it with conviction this time

Hammad

Its better you say it again

Also, please read then type it in Arabic: “Ash-Hadu an La iLaha illal-Lah, Wa Ash-Hadu Anna Muhammadan Rasulullah.”

Frances

Ash-Hadu an La iLaha illal-Lah, Wa Ash-Hadu Anna Muhammadan Raulull

rasulullah

Hammad

Awesome!!! By the way, I am curious, what caused you to have an interest in Islam? 🙂 Please share and I’ll return in like a few mins, is that alright?

Frances

I didn’t believe Allah existed so I wanted to see what a Muslim said

Hammad

So how did you come to this chat :)?

Frances

Typed into the search Islam Chat and this website came up

Hammad

Thats beautiful!

Thanks so much for sharing

I’ll be glad to register you at our newmuslimacademy.org so that you could learn the basics of Islam. You simply need to share your full name and email with me, is that okay?

Frances

Do you need my age? I’ll give you it if it helps

Hammad

Just full name and email is needed for the site, anything extra you wish to share, you are welcome

Frances

Okay, my full name is Francesca Emelia Sykes, I’m 19 years old and live in Birmingham, my email is sykes_francesca2013@yahoo.com

Hammad

Amazing thanks so much Sister Francesca Emelia Sykes 🙂

If you have any questions please ask 🙂

Frances

I know some of us Muslim women wear a headscarf, do you think I should wear one? I’ll happily wear one if you think best

Hammad

If you feel confident and feel it wont cause any harm then it would be best, I know some hide their faith and such, in those circumstances they are excused

Frances

Come to think it’ll be a surprise for my boyfriend haha

Hammad

Perhaps he can become a Muslim too

Then you can have a blessed family together 🙂

Frances

I’ll flaunt my new religion

Hopefully so

What will happen if he doesn’t want to become a Muslim?

Hammad

What does he follow now?

Frances

Nothing

Hammad

He believes God exists?

Frances

Other lasses bums haha

No

Hammad

You should put effort but if he doesnt show interest, I dont feel he would be a good potential to begin a family with, especially with the kids you know…may give rise to big conflicts.

Frances

That’s fair, I’d want my kids to be Muslims so if he doesn’t convert I’ll just leave him

Hammad

Also if he isnt a Muslim, then it will negatively affect your faith too say if you marry him.

He may do actions which would be contrary to Islam and would want you with him

Does it make sense?

Frances

It wouldn’t surprise me, he’s cheated on me in the past so

Hammad

Be straight forward with him

Your love for God is stronger then anything else

If you leave something for God’s sake, He will replace it for you with something better

Thats a promise of the Creator from the narrations of the Prophet.

A person who lived the worst life, one dip in Paradise will make the person forget all the saddness.

And a person who lived the best life, one dip in Hell would make this person forget all the happiness.

Happiness is created by Allah, and He has conencted it with His Rememberance

Frances

That’s beautiful

Hammad

Satan tries to make the evil beautiful. But in the end, all it makes the person do is regret.

Think about it, he tries to make wine beautiful, but drinking comes with consequences. He makes adultery beautiful but with it comes break up of families, ill effects etc.

Frances

You’re right

Well it’s up to him, he can either convert or I’m gone

100% raising my kids as Muslims

Hammad

Be strong Frances. Dont let anyone control you or bring you down. Allah has blessed you with faith, its more expensive then everything in this world.

You have a good heart, May Allah bless you and always keep you happy. Ameen. If you ever need anything, we are always here for you anytime!

Frances

Thank you Hammad, you have a good heart too

Your woman is a lucky girl

Hammad

Really appreciate.

In sha allah – Allah willing

Frances

In sha Allah 🙂

Hammad

Asaalamu alikum :). May Allah’s peace and blessings be upon you.

Frances

Asaalamu alikum brother 🙂

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